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Poster: secret8476 Date: Jul 24, 2008 10:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Melvin Seals is NOT JGB

This guy kills me. I mean really ... i ran into him comin' off his tour bus back in '97 in the pochonos at a grateful gathering and at the risk of making myself sound like an ass (i usually do) I asked him in front of a swell of people if he thought it was right to continue carrying on as JGB and profiting off Jer's good name. I guess the rest of the underpriviledged crowd had never been in the presence of even a semi-popular musician of any sort cuz everyone was stunned that i had the gall to ask him my question. They massed quickly into a protective circle around him and glared onward at me as tho they were islamic and I just drew a cartoon rendition Mohammad.

Quickly assessing his situation, he turned to the still drooling masses of unfortunate groupies, still reeling from my question... and asked aloud "No, I don't see a problem with it ... do any of you people see a problem with it?"
A resounding NO- followed by other ... *comments* came my way and like a dog with his tail between it's legs, i sulked back into the crowd as quietly as I could.

Outnumbered and expelled with a loud chorus of boos and jeers, I simply walked away not knowing if I felt more sorry for poor ole' Seals, or his lost acolytes of terible taste and poor judgement. I then watched in horror as they took the stage later that night and some crooner who looked like a cross between Kieth Richards (we'll go with the Kieth that appears in Pirates) and Timothy Leary on his deathbed took the stage and tried to wail out such revered tunes as Shakedown Street and Bird Song. I'm pretty sure I had to hold back the instantaneous gag reflex one would get when walking into say, a port-a-potty. Still to this day, I wish i could have gathered up all of those people who defended Melvin outside his tour bus that evening and say .. I told ya so.

I've never listened to JGB since that day and I don't think I ever will. So ..... anyone else feel similar? Or shall I just hang my head now ....

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Jul 24, 2008 11:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Melvin Seals is NOT JGB

Maybe Mel should change the name to JGlessB, better yet he could dis-band and hook up with the Maykeers (I hear they are really hot)

;)

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jul 24, 2008 11:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Melvin Seals is NOT JGB *just for jglynn

Sorry to hijack, but wanted to let you know had about a half-hour long conversation last night with Johny's little brother (the albino w/o all the ink). Had some very interesting and encouraging things to say about his big brother, but what really cracked me up was how he mentioned that his brother has a small but very devoted, rabid hard core group of fans, "kind of like Deadheads". Ha!

Told him I thought JW w/ Derek was a highlight of the Crossroads thing. He said they do about 10-15 shows a year together if can.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Jul 24, 2008 11:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Melvin Seals is NOT JGB *just for jglynn

Too Cool

You were hangin' with Edgar? Are you shittin' me?

Next time you see him tell him a Rabid fan from Babylon wishes he, and his bro and his whole family well!!

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jul 24, 2008 12:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Melvin Seals is NOT JGB *just for jglynn

Yea, for about a half hour or so before he hit stage last night. Have to say, he was by far the best part of the show last night as he's quite the talented musician - keys, sax, percussion, and quite a good singer (unlike the headliner whose band he's in - there was a reason they had two drummers).

My buddy who is in the "biz" spoke to him about possiblity of booking some Edgar/Johny shows

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Jul 24, 2008 12:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Melvin Seals is NOT JGB *just for jglynn

Nice. There is a really good old Vid of Edgar performing Frankenstein on Youtube where he plays keys/sax & does a Drum solo - it is classic.

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Poster: Bob Gnarley Date: Jul 24, 2008 11:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Melvin Seals is NOT JGB

Are they still billed as the JGB Band? I always found that redundant (Jerry Garcia Band Band?). Maybe JGB now stands for Just Getting By. That might explain the need to name-drop.

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Poster: august_wst Date: Jul 24, 2008 1:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Melvin Seals is NOT JGB

Part of the reason to naming a band with your actual name in the moniker is so that when you die/retire, no one should be able to use it (Can you see Crosby, Still, Nash and Young with none of the actual people in it?). I'm not a big fan of Melvin, but aside form that I don't think it shows much respect using Garcia's name even if, technically, he is only using the initials (JGB).

Form your own band, and come up with a catchy new name like "The people who used to play with that nine fingered guitarist" or sumpin'.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 24, 2008 1:21pm
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"The people who used to play with that nine fingered guitarist" or sumpin'.

Excellent.

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Poster: dilcurrie Date: Jul 24, 2008 1:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Melvin Seals is NOT JGB

Technically, and officially I was a member of the Jerry Garcia Band back in 1990. Can I form a JGB?

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jul 24, 2008 2:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Melvin Seals is NOT JGB

huh?? explain

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Poster: dilcurrie Date: Jul 24, 2008 3:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Melvin Seals is NOT JGB

back in 1990 (Or was it 1989) when "Deadicated" the covers album was released if you bought it on tape you could send away for a lyric booklet / cd insert and you got a credit card which stated (and i've just checked) Honorary Jerry Garcia Band Member. and Official Deadicated Deadhead. On the back it says "By signing the DOCUMENT OF DEADICATION the cardholder agrees to spread the word about DEADICATED the all star tribute to the GRATEFUL DEAD... ...secondly the bearer becomes an honorary member of the JERRY GARCIA BAND on their first-ever electric double album. ((Capitals as on original card))

Mind you, I never recieved any royalties...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 24, 2008 3:23pm
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That's damn cool! Reminds of signing up for DeadHeads after I got S&R in the early 70s...even got Christmas cards from them for a number of years, besides the little 45 sized disks they cut for their solo efforts in 74-75...

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Jul 24, 2008 3:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Melvin Seals is NOT JGB

sure, as long as you are not Jerry garcia. Seriously it reminds me of the movie Eddie and The Cruisers. A tribute band playing the same songs and using old name. At least the new guy had the balls to call it Eddie and the Cruisers featuring sal Amato

My post could be inaccurate. While the band appears to be called JGB there are some tour dates sited as Melvin seals and the JGB. I still think it's bush but if that's the case my Eddie and the cruisers wrap doesn't jive.

This post was modified by lobster12 on 2008-07-24 22:40:10

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jul 24, 2008 4:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Melvin Seals is NOT JGB

to the dude who thinks that Melvin doesnt get any extra cash/ops from calling his band JGB.....

thank god your dumb ass dont work for me. you have no clue about marketing and are more suited for taco bell than business

what the fuck were you thinking posting that. you CANNOT be that stupid. of course he gets $$ from calling himself JGB - god man - get a fuckin clue

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Poster: rastamon Date: Jul 24, 2008 5:53pm
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so you have a problem with Melvin using the JGB initials?
"Nigga" as you put it(?)....IMHO- He's GRATE, and they are GRATE!
I hope he makes lots of $ and continues to put out the Grateful vibe. Peace




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Poster: lobster12 Date: Jul 24, 2008 4:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Melvin Seals is NOT JGB

Exactly. I don't think he's giving tribute when naming the band that, it's keeping himself relevant and trying to cash in.

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Poster: buscameby Date: Jul 24, 2008 12:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Melvin Seals is NOT JGB

I first have to say Melvin helped provided me some of my happiest moments with JGB.

BUT, I have also felt it was not very appropriate to be billed as the JGB if JG is DEAD!

It reminds me of the old Saturday Night Live skit that Andy Koffman did with the Elvis jump suite. "The king is gone but the Suite lives on." Maybe they should put a set of black sweat pants and blue shirt on a manaquin and lean the Tiger Bolt at its side.

That said I would love to see the Melvin Seals Band play JGB songs anytime. I wish him all the best and send him back the love he and Jerry shared with us all.

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Poster: ganges Date: Jul 24, 2008 12:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Melvin Seals is NOT JGB

http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=134236

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Poster: roughyed85 Date: Jul 24, 2008 11:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Melvin Seals is NOT JGB

Melvin Seals' hammond complimented the relaxed, happy sound of the Jerry Garcia Band. Other musicians play Grateful Dead/Jerry Garcia music, so why shouldn't he?

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jul 24, 2008 12:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Melvin Seals is NOT JGB

I don't like it personally, but plenty of people profit off the name that never even played with him. Ultimately, I don't have to go. Also, I'm sure Jerry wouldn't mind them being able to make some $ for themselves.

I'm surprised Koons hasn't sued them.

I saw them as part of the comes a time thing and the singer/guitarist sounds CREEPILY ( as in allmost exactly ) like Jerry. Although I don't know why you wouldn't rather have a young Jerry voice if you're going to try and clone it.

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Poster: pulverazation Date: Jul 24, 2008 12:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Melvin Seals is NOT JGB

i dont know but im going to see them next month with new riders.i cant wait and my 2 cents on the whole subject is that it is what it is and im not going to lose sleep over it.if you dont know jerry is dead by now your probably not spending your money on jgb concerts and cds.hell people i know that hate the dead know jerrys dead.i dont think that they are making extra profit just because the name.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Jul 24, 2008 1:08pm
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riders and JGB should be fun

let us know how it goes

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Poster: rastamon Date: Jul 24, 2008 12:45pm
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They call themselves Melvin Seals & the JGB (JGB not spelled out).
No prob with me...and they are excellent!
I heard them at last years Jerryday Festival in San Francisco, the deadheads enjoyed the show.
Check 'em out at this coming Jerryday (8/3)If you're in the area >>
http://www.jerryday.org/event.html

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Poster: lastcall Date: Jul 24, 2008 5:30pm
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being a friend and bandmate of Garcia, I think he shows as much(perhaps more) respect for the vehicle that paved the way for a career that has lasted.($$ career)

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Jul 24, 2008 3:05pm
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you know what I bet there are some of those 80's 90's pop bands that you see play your local fair that call themselves by the name of the original band when the only member left is the keyboard player or someone obscure but I think this is bit different. If Tom Petty died and Mike Campbell continued to tour and sing Tom petty songs would he still call the band Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers? Who knows? It's still bushleague if you ask me. Honestly the only person who should be worked up is Koons who wished she trademarked JGB.

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Poster: high flow Date: Jul 24, 2008 11:41am
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I'm not wild about Melvin using the name. However, he and the back-up singers were a huge part of the JGB sound. Who is hurt by this?

Somebody gave me a post-Jerry JGB disk, which I have never listened to.

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Poster: cousinkix1953 Date: Jul 24, 2008 4:06pm
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" I'm not wild about Melvin using the name. However, he and the back-up singers were a huge part of the JGB sound. Who is hurt by this?"

People still wanna hear this music and keep going to the shows. I don't have a problem with Melvin doing his old JGB stuff. Sugaree, Deal and TLEO yourselves crazy until the band retires.

Birdsong? Attempts to cover Shakedown Street and other Grateful Dead exclusive songs just doesn't sound right to me either...

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jul 24, 2008 4:33pm
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he is free-loading the name - any marketing guru could tell you that. the nigga aint stupid

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Poster: secret8476 Date: Jul 24, 2008 11:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Melvin Seals is NOT JGB

I think maybe the point of my post was lost in translation.
I know Mel and the gals were a part of the band and added their own melody's and unique contributions. However, it just doesn't seem right that- to this day - he tours as JGB. Call it the Melvin Seals Band, or .. the Leftovers - or something! Carrying on as JGB - which we all know was the Jerry Garcia Band - he's just reaping the benefits of the name. I dare anyone to listen to a modern day "JGB" show and tell me it's still consistent and condusive to use the name JGB. Its like Men In Black - when the bug wore the Edgar suit. It may look like Edgar- but it ain't Edgar.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jul 24, 2008 12:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Melvin Seals is NOT JGB

given his somewhat large girth, maybe JGB is an acronym for :

Jiggly Giant Buttocks

(one never knows)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 24, 2008 12:28pm
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"JGB" will NEVER be the same for me!

You slime!

That is such an appropriate descriptor for so many folks I see these days...

Yuck.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jul 24, 2008 12:58pm
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my apologies my friend

my heartfelt mea culpa for ruining your JGB experience. I hang my buttocks, errrr, head in shame. (well, that didnt sound good either)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 24, 2008 1:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Two sides of the same jiggly coin

Especially since being one in the same, it didn't make sense either.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jul 24, 2008 1:32pm
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you are one fanny dude, errrr, funny dude

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 24, 2008 1:40pm
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Oh, and yeah, that "cellulite pock mocked buttocks" comment has me gagging as well. Off to the gym now with the certainty that I will gaze upon BOTH phenomena multiple times ("jiggly" and "pock marked")!!!

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Jul 24, 2008 1:06pm
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Noone but you would even come close to thinking up that one.

Must be nice to have a one track mind!

;)

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jul 24, 2008 1:16pm
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"ooooh melvin - show me that cellulite pocked manly buttocks of yours...... big boy"




(i'm scaring myself)

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Poster: nagdot Date: Jul 25, 2008 9:31am
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you could really say that PAF, ratdog, and the donna version of the zen tricksters,plus whoever else, do the same thing. i mean the grateful dead as we know it died when jerry did. phil and bob have no songwriting talent so instead of making new original music, they sponge off the legacy jerry made for them. music is music. does it really matter who's interpretation is good or bad. ive heard gd cover bands that make the boys look like high school kids playing in their garage. you would think if you had an opportunity to ask a legend(after all he was in jerrys band) a question it woulda been something different then "do you deserve to be playing jerry music".